@sleve_mcdichael thanks :) but its much easer with the poup adn needs les butons

I think I have now resolved this issue - for anyone else who has suffered from similar woes, I quit out of Emulation Station and did

sudo rpi-update

to update the firmware. Now the left and up axes seem to be recognised properly - watch this space to see if I have other problems! (I'll bet good money that I do lol)

@dematica
Ok so any one having the same problem
It’s only on RetroPie witch is a shame cause it’s just what I wanted to use . It apears that on Recalbox the joysticks work just fine .
Still open to help if any one can point me in the right direction
Found my joystick I’d
Unplug
LSUSB
Plug back in
LSUSB
You can see the id